7:54 PM (ET) 4/3 (AP & MOI) CIA Says They Wanted Guatemalan Arrested - Another CIA Limited Hangout Unfolds WASHINGTON--The CIA wanted to go after a Guatemalan colonel accused of ordering the killing of an American but was thwarted, officials say, when the Justice Dept concluded he could not be prosecuted under US law.

An interim report describing the discussions between the CIA and the Justice Dept in 1991 was sent to the National Security Council last week, according to department officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity. Why are these people afraid to speak publicly?

The interim report was the first product of an inquiry by the Justice Dept's inspector general, one of several investigations ordered by President and COUNCIL ON FOREIGN RELATIONS MEMBER Clinton into the CIA's activities in Guatemala.

Since 1966 every CIA Director has belonged to the Council on Foreign Relations. The CFR/CIA Directors are; Richard Helms (1966-73 Johnson), James R. Schlesinger (1973 Nixon), William E. Colby (1973-1976 Nixon), George Bush (1976-1977 Ford), Adm Stansfield Turner (1977-1981 Carter), William J. Casey (1981-1987 Reagan), William H. Webster (1987-1991 Reagan), Robert M. Gates (1991-1993 Bush), R. James Woolsey (1993- Clinton), and John Deutch, who replaced Woolsey as CFR member Clinton's CIA Director.

Other investigations are under way at the CIA, the National Security Agency, the State Dept, the Army and the Intelligence Oversight Board. Separately, the FBI is investigating whether the NSA or Army intelligence destroyed files about the death of the American and of a Guatemalan rebel leader.

The National Security Council (NSC) was established by the National Security Act of 1947. The members of the NSC are: COUNCIL ON FOREIGN RELATIONS MEMBER William J. Clinton (The President); Albert Gore, Jr. (Vice President); COUNCIL ON FOREIGN RELATIONS MEMBER Warren M. Christopher (The Secretary of State); William J. Perry (The Secretary of Defense). The statuary advisors of the NSC are: COUNCIL ON FOREIGN RELATIONS MEMBER R. James Woolsey (Director of the CIA); Gen. John M. Shalikashvili (Chairmen, Joint Chief of Staff). The Standing Participants of the NSC are: Robert E. Rubin (Secretary of the Treasury); COUNCIL ON FOREIGN RELATIONS MEMBER Madeleine K. Albright (US Representative to the UN); Thomas f. McLarty III (Chief of Staff to the President); COUNCIL ON FOREIGN RELATIONS MEMBER Anthony Lake (National Security Advisor to the President - Lake is also an NSC official); COUNCIL ON FOREIGN RELATIONS MEMBER Laura D'Andrea Tyson ( President Clinton's Chief Economic Aide). National Security Council Officials are: COUNCIL ON FOREIGN RELATIONS MEMBER Samuel R. Berger (Deputy National Security Advisor); COUNCIL ON FOREIGN RELATIONS MEMBER Nancy E. Soderberg (Special Assistant to the President and Staff Directory; William H. Itho (Executive Secretary). The NSC advises and assists the President in integrating all aspects of national security policy as it affects the United States - domestic, foreign, military, intelligence, and economic affairs. It works in conjunction with the National Economic Council. The Chairmen of the National Economic Council is COUNCIL ON FOREIGN RELATIONS MEMBER Laura D'Andrea Tyson.

CFR member Clinton's Department of State Personnel who are members of the Council on Foreign Relations include; Deputy Secretary Clifton R. Wharton Jr., Under Secretary for Political Affairs Peter Tarnoff, Under Secretary for Management Richard Moose, Under Secretary for Global Affairs Timothy Wirth, Assistant Secretary for East Asian & Pacific Affairs Winston Lord (President of COUNCIL ON FOREIGN RELATIONS and a Republican), Assistant Secretary for European & Canadian Affairs Stephen Oxman, Assistant Secretary for Intelligence & Research Tobi Gati and Assistant Secretary for Inter-American Affairs Alexander Watson. Will an honest investigation be performed?

Col. Julio Roberto Alpirez, said to have been on the CIA payroll, is alleged to have ordered the 1990 murder of Michael Devine, a US citizen and innkeeper in Guatemala. Alpirez has denied any responsibility in Devine's death.

In 1991, CIA officials, angry with Alpirez over the Devine killing, told the Justice Dept about the allegations against him in hopes of finding a way to take action against him, it was learned.

The CIA and Justice Dept explored the options for action against Alpirez for 3 or 4 months. During this time, they kept open the possibility of continuing CIA payments to Alpirez, who had dropped out of sight, in hope that the chance for additional payments would lure him into the open should they decide to act against him, it was learned.

But the Justice attorneys concluded that the only statute that allowed prosecution for killing a US citizen abroad could not be used in this case, according to 2 Justice officials.

The problem was the law, an antiterrorism statute, required that the killing be "intended to coerce, intimidate, or retaliate against a government or a civilian population" and that motive could not be ascribed to Alpirez, the officials said.

The Justice inspector general's inquiry is continuing; the interim report did not cover whether there were any CIA contacts with Justice over allegations that Alpirez directed the torture and murder in 1992 of Guatemalan guerrilla commander Efrain Bamaca Velasquez, who was married to an American lawyer.

CIA spokesman Vin Swasey said, "We just can't comment on stories about potential CIA sources." He cited the agency's earlier assertion that it did not learn about the killings until "well after they occurred" and then shared the information with appropriate government authorities. Is Vin Swasey telling the truth? Or is Swasey using a well known CIA technique - lying. In the early to mid-80's the CIA produced a small handbook called Psychological Operation's In Guerrilla Warfare. The manual was funded by the Iran-Contra affair. The manual was disseminated to a group of Nicaraguan rebels called the Nicaraguan Democratic Forces. In the United States this group is better known as the "contras" or anti-Sandinista rebels. The manual was based on material originating in April of 1968 at the Army Special Warfare School at Fort Bragg on psychological operations or "psy-ops". When its existence was first revealed the manual caused a storm of controversy. President Regan promised a detailed inquiry. However, only a few low-level CIA employees were reprimanded. The matter was then officially closed.

The introduction to the manual offers the following insight into the twisted thinking of our so-called intelligence organizations,"This conception of guerrilla warfare as political war turns Psychological Operations into the decisive factor of the results. The target, then, is the minds of the population, all the population: our troops, the enemy troops and the civilian population. This manual is a manual for the training of guerrillas in psychological operations, and its application to the concrete case of the Christian and democratic crusade being waged in Nicaragua by the Freedom Commandos. Welcome!."

The original manual suggested hiring professional criminals to stir up trouble at demonstrations so that people would be killed and martyrs created from among the contra ranks. Edgar Chammoro, the Nicaraguan Democratic Forces director of propaganda objected to this material and the pages that contained it were physically ripped from the first printing of the manuals.

Was Col. Julio Roberto Alpirez, put on the CIA payroll as part of a psychological operation? What was the purpose of the operation? Who hired this professional criminal? Why was he hired?

Also on Monday, House Speaker and COUNCIL ON FOREIGN RELATIONS MEMBER Newt Gingrich (R- Ga.) said Rep. Robert Torricelli (D-N.J.) should resign from the House Intelligence Committee because he made public allegations US officials may have concealed knowledge of the killings. Gingrich is a member of the Council on Foreign Relations. Is Gingrich helping with the limited hangout? Is he attacking Torricelli to silence opposition to the illegal and amoral activities of the CIA? Council On Foreign Relations member William Colby did this to Michael J. Harrington, a member of House of Representatives Select Intelligence Committee in 1975.

In 1975 a number of intelligence organizations were investigated by a Senate Select Intelligence Committee and a House of Representative Select Intelligence Committee. The Senate Select Committee was chaired by Nelson Rockefeller, the House Select committee was chaired by O. G. Pike. The intelligence organizations investigated included the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), The Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA), the National Security Council (NSC) and the National Security Agency (NSA). Mr. Colby was the director of the CIA. As the story unfolded numerous incidents of blatant unconstitutional activities were uncovered. A vast network of unlawful or uncontrolled domestic operations by the CIA resulted in creation of files on 300,000 individuals and organizations. CIA and FBI activities included mail openings, wiretapping, room bugging, burglaries, extensive monitoring of overseas telephone calls, secret drug testing and infiltration of American political groups.

Among the American citizens on whom files were maintained were members of Congress. Among the American citizens whose mail was intercepted and opened were those who wrote letters to Dr Martin Luther King Jr and his wife Coretta, John D Rockefeller the 4th, Representative Bella Abzug, Richard Nixon, Hubert Humphry, Edward Kennedy, and Frank Church. The senate select committee had evidence that implicated the CIA in more than one assassination scheme including a CIA assassination plot in Chile. The House of Representatives Select Intelligence committee demanded unimpeded access to classified documents and other materials that the commission had subpoenaed from CIA Director William E Colby. Colby refused to transfer sensitive material in response to the subpoena.

Michael J. Harrington, a member of House of Representatives Select Intelligence Committee, came under suspicion that he was a security risk. Harrington was dropped from the committee when he fought to disclose facts of CIA operations in Chile. It was CIA director William Colby who singled out Harrington as a security risk. Despite the illegalities, individuals such as Colby who were responsible for the initiation and implementation of these activities have never been tried convicted or punished for any wrong doing.

COUNCIL ON FOREIGN RELATIONS MEMBER Gingrich said Torricelli's allegations, which triggered some of the current investigations, should have been considered by the committee in closed session.

"I think he just decided to go ahead and cause a public embarrassment for the US," COUNCIL ON FOREIGN RELATIONS MEMBER Gingrich said in a briefing for newspaper reporters. Although The Associated Press was not invited to the briefing, Gingrich's spokesman confirmed the comments.

Torricelli replied in a statement that all the information he relayed came from sources outside the Intelligence Committee.

"I'm satisfied there's no money going down there now," COUNCIL ON FOREIGN RELATIONS MEMBER Christopher said on CBS' "Face the Nation." Christopher gave assurances that any intelligence officials involved in past misconduct in Guatemala will be disciplined.

One example of a "limited hangout" was the Church Committee's investigation of the CIA in the early 1980's. The committee learned nothing more about the assassination of foreign leaders, illicit drug programs, or the penetration of the news media than the CIA allowed it to discover. Do you believe COUNCIL ON FOREIGN RELATIONS MEMBER Warren Christopher? Do you think Warren Christopher is afraid to lie?

But the head of the Senate Intelligence Committee, Sen. Arlen Specter (R-Pa.), said on the same program that he was "very dissatisfied" with the situation and planned hearings this week on CIA funding for Guatemalan military leaders in the early 1990s.

COUNCIL ON FOREIGN RELATIONS MEMBER Christopher would not go into the chronology of the CIA's ties in the Central American country but promised full disclosure once an investigation that COUNCIL ON FOREIGN RELATIONS MEMBER Clinton ordered last week is completed.

After Devine's death, the COUNCIL ON FOREIGN RELATIONS MEMBER Bush's administration suspended $7 million in military aid because the Guatemalan government refused to launch a serious investigation. But a $5 million CIA liaison program with the Guatemalan military was allowed to continue, a Bush appointee says. He says ending that program would have left the US government uninformed about drug trafficking and the country's civil war.

The investigation ordered by COUNCIL ON FOREIGN RELATIONS MEMBER Clinton also encompasses the deaths of 2 American journalists, Nicholas Blake and Griffith Davis, in 1985.

Another limited hangout took place in 1986. In 1986 two secret U.S. Government operations were publicly exposed implicating Reagan Administration officials in illegal activities. These operations became known as the Iran-Contra Affair. A seven year investigation costing millions of dollars ensued. Only one person would spend any time in prison - he was found guilty of not paying his income taxes. The Office of Independent Counsel's report states "it is important to emphasize that both the Iran and contra operations, separately, violated the United States policy and law."

Lawrence E. Walsh was Independent Counsel. In 1969 Walsh worked with CFR member Kissinger at the meetings on Vietnam in Paris. In 1981 Walsh worked for Crowe and Dunlevy a law firm representing Oil Companies, Air Lines, and Insurance Companies run by CFR members. Was the investigation designed to give the appearance that justice was served while in effect being a clever way of obstructing justice? Did CFR media members, lawyers, and judges, all profit monetarily from the publicity generated under the pretense of doing something important, while justice went unserved and the guilty went free?

CFR members George Bush, Elliot Abrams, Casper Weinberger, Robert M. Gates, William J. Casey, and Robert C. McFarlane advised Regan to go ahead with Iran-Contra. On December 24, 1992, Bush pardoned fellow CFR members Weinberger, McFarlane, Abrams, and three CIA chiefs named Fiers, George, and Clarridge. Isn't there a conflict of interest apparent in this pardon? Isn't advising the President to break the law Treason? Why weren't the people involved charged with Treason? Have members of the intelligence community that belong to the CFR gained control of the government of the United States of America?

In regard to Weinberger, Mr. Walsh explains: "...As detailed within this report, ... Weinberger advised ... Reagan in 1985 that the shipments were illegal. [His] opinion was shared by attorneys within the Department of Defense and the White House counsel's office ... ." Weinberger was using a tactic which consists of getting it on record that what you doing is illegal. If someone catches on, the record is produced and you claim innocence. Of course, if you really objected to the illegal activity, you would resign and advise the proper authorities.

The OIC's investigation of Vice President Bush "did not develop evidence that proved that Vice President Bush violated any criminal statue. Contrary to his public pronouncements, however, he was fully aware of Iran arms sales....in December 1992 ... Bush failed to produce a diary containing... notes relevant to Iran/contra ... Bush refused to be interviewed ... leaving unresolved a clear picture of his Iran/Contra involvement. Bush's pardon of Weinberger ... preempted a trial in which defense counsel ... intended to call Bush as a witness."

George Bush co-founded Zapata Petroleum; was a Texas congressman; served as UN ambassador; and replaced fellow CFR member William Colby as CIA director. Wasn't Walsh and the OIC aware of Bush's involvement in the intelligence community; the CFR and Trilateral commission; the oil industry through Zapata Petroleum; and that Bush had a vested interest in the Petroleum politics of the middle-east? Wouldn't a seven year investigation uncover these connections? Was Iran-Contra Reagan's idea or his advisors idea? If a president's advisors advise the President to do something illegal aren't they betraying the trust of the American people and guilty of Treason?

Are CIA covert operations designed to purposely stir up trouble around the world, as an excuse for the United States to continue to effectively maintain the most powerful military establishment in our peacetime history? Is the real purpose of maintaining this powerful military establishment to protect and expand COUNCIL ON FOREIGN RELATIONS members holdings throughout the world?

One COUNCIL ON FOREIGN RELATIONS family, the Rockefeller's, have assets in 125 nations. What are combined COUNCIL ON FOREIGN RELATIONS member holdings? While economies go through inflation and depression, nations suffer famine and pestilence, and wars ravage and destroy, those that control money and power still prosper. COUNCIL ON FOREIGN RELATIONS industries produce medicine, munitions, and food. Promoting an economy of unrest creates markets for COUNCIL ON FOREIGN RELATIONS products. COUNCIL ON FOREIGN RELATIONS business executives hold key positions within government policy councils and help their company dominate the economy through political connections.

We are 4.7 trillion dollars in debt, and our legislatures are fighting over cutting lunches for school children. The CIA, employs more than 20,000 people. These people are trained to lie, and cheat and kill. The people that run this agency have no character. This agency is unnecessary, and should be disbanded.The cold war is over, the CIA and all other intelligence agencies should be dissolved -- including the National Security Council.

All intelligence priorities of this country should be made known to the people. We are at peace -- what covert operations are being carried out by the CIA and other agencies? What are the purposes of these operations? What do these covert operations cost?

Is the Council on Foreign Relations a group of subtle fascists that has taken control of the United States government? Isn't it time to call for a Congressional investigation of the Council on Foreign Relations and its sister organization the Trilateral Commission? Isn't it time for the Justice department to indict these murderous amoral unethical white collar criminals on racketeering charges and send them to prison for the rest of their lives or execute them? (FromAP & MOI)